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Subject: Dirty song lyrics can prompt early teen sex

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n2ops
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05/17/2007 11:26 PM Alert 
n2ops
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Posted:08/11/2006 10:56 AM
Degrading messages influence sexual behavior, study finds

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14227775/

k06mars
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Posted:08/11/2006 12:39 PM
The thing about studies is, the researchers will generally try to find a way to get what their looking for. All this study shows is that there is a correlation. A similiar study was done reguarding teens who watch wrestling and engage in violence. In that study, they failed to recognize that some teens who watch wrestling are in fact very good students with well grounded views! Another example would be: as the tree in my backyard gets bigger, I lose my hair. This is 100% true, but you don't see men chopping down trees because of it, do you?

The same can be said here. The study failed to isolate any one given condition, and as a result, no conclusive evidence can show causation. While I don't have access to the research pool, it could be possible that a large number of teens who listen to songs with suggestive lyrics come from poor families in urban America (where they're predisposed to a lot more things as well, such as drug use).
While I don't listen to rap personally, my brothers do - and so I do listen to it on a regular basis at the subconscious level. I know that I'm not listening to it when I'm in the car with them, but it's still being "beat into my head", as one teen put it. Do I go out and have sex or look for sex though? No! And I'm in college, where it is quite possibly the most likely setting for a teen to have sex. Therefore, they're point about ideas being put into teens' heads and affecting theyre choices reguarding theyre sex life is null and void.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to promote music that degrades women, promotes rape, murder, etc. However, this is not the correct argument to use against them. It would be more correct to say that teens who listen to these lyrics are ALREADY predisposed to risky behavior, BEFORE the music kicks in.

College Girl
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Posted:08/13/2006 2:40 PM
I agree that studies are not always 100% honest in what they say. However, it is also important to realize that for the majority of people what they watch and listen to does affect their lives. It may not be to the point of creating aggression or turning them into killers, but it does affect them. For example..."the best part of waking up...." (you fill in) Of course we all know this, why? Because it's in our mind, this jingle from Foldgers coffee. It's not that we sat in front of the television and studied it for hours, quite the contrary, we probably weren't paying much attention at all. The things will listen to will determine what song we have stuck in our head all day. If it's a song full of swearing or violence, those words repeat over and over in our heads. Will it make you more likely to swear should the situation arise? Also, (an extreme example) what did the Nazi's use to soften youth? Music. Neo-Nazi's in Germany are still using it today. Check out this link:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1827739,00.html

Again, this is important to realize...it's not to call you some violent person if you watch wrestling, it's just good to know how these things can affect us because it's so subliminal that we would probably not even notice.

k06mars
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Posted:08/14/2006 1:59 AM
I guess my counter-point to the language in music is that its part of everyday culture. "F--- this man!" is just one saying that is used over and over again. Every now and then I find that I let a swear word slip out of my mouth. Is it from the music though? NO - it's the people who I'm around who don't realize that these words should only be used sparingly (if at all), otherwise the extremity of the meaning of the word is taken away completely (if that makes any sense)...wow I'm sorry that was waaay too much of a run-on. If the nation as a whole would stop using these words, the music industry would as well. The media follows what is popular, we create what is acceptable and the they will amplify those standards, whether they be just or not. If we say "no" to whatever the media says, they no longer have an audience, something that they need.

By the way, I'm putting the over/under on 128 years before this type of media becomes unacceptable.

College Girl
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Posted:08/15/2006 5:42 PM
I guess I was a little vague on the fact that I don't think music just affects your language. It may affect some people different ways, but it still does. Why do they play Christmas music in malls? To put you in the mood to buy. Why do they play Kenny G in elevators? So you don't freak out that you're in a box with no windows. Why do magazines have lists of songs to "put you in the mood" or for exercising. And yes, I totally agree that us saying "no" to Hollywood is essential. I don't think it's wrong to go to the movies or buy a movie or CD that isn't Christian, but we still need to be good stewards of our money and realize that what we sow in is what we reap.

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